Sample A: 3 La Liga titles, 2 Champions Leagues, 2 Copa Del Rey’s, 3 Spanish Super Cups, 2 UEFA Super Cups, 2 Club World Cups, 1 treble, 1 double.
Sample B: 3 La Liga titles (one with a record points haul), 2 Copa Del Reys, 1 Champions League, 2 Spanish Super Cups, 1 UEFA Super Cup, 1 Club World Cup, 1 treble, 1 double, won 5 trophies in a calendar year, longest unbeaten streak in team’s history.
Both of these samples are 4 year periods in Barca’s history, one belongs to Pep Guardiola, the other belongs to Tito Villanova, Jordi Roura (Caretaker when Tito fell ill), Tata Martino, amd Luis Enrique. Sample A is Pep Guardiola. Sample B are the Barca managers who followed him. Despite the managers and instability at Barca since Pep left these records are remarkably similar. Same number of league and cup wins, 1 less Champions League win, 1 less Super Cup win each, 1 less Club World Cup. Barca in total have won 10 trophies since Pep left. Pep in the golden era of Barca’s football won 14.
So looking at the stats Pep’s accomplishments while impressive, the club hardly dropped off since he left. That is despite the fact that Real and Atletico Madrid have been better teams since Pep’s departure. Atletico Madrid won the league in 2013-14, the Copa in 2013, the Spanish Super Cup in 2014, the UEFA Super Cup in 2012, and reached 2 Champions League finals in 3 years (2014, 2016). Real Madrid also improved winning a Spanish Super Cup in 2012, a Copa Del Rey in 2014, 2 Champions Leagues in 2014 and 2016, 2 UEFA Super Cuos, 2 Club World Cups, and set record winning streak and unbeaten streaks by a Spanish club. In total Real won 8 trophies since Pep left, Atletico 4. When Pep was in charge from 2008-2012, Real and Atletico COMBINED won 6 trophies. (Real won a 2008 Spanish Super Cup, 2011 Copa Del Rey, 2011-2012 La Liga title. Atletico won 2 Europa Leagues and 1 UEFA Super Cup.) So the competition wasn’t as strong when Pep was at Barcelona compared to the situation after he left. Diego Simeone only managed Atletico after the middle of Pep’s last season, and Carlo Ancelotti and Zidane only came after Pep had left. The truly amazing part of Pep Guardiola’s reign that goes off without a question is just how fortunate they were to win 2 Champions Leagues.
In 2009 Barcelona visited Chelsea in one of the most infamous matches in Champions League history. Tom Henning Ovrebo the Norwegian referee may have had the worst performance of a ref in a big game in recent memory. He denied Chelsea 3-4 clear penalties, and although Chelsea had a 1-0 lead for the majority of the game, a wonder strike by Iniesta in the 93rd minute propelled Barcelona into the final on away goals. It was a game that lives in infamy and despite Pep’s Barca winning the Champions League final with ease against Manchester United this game is held against them.
In 2011 Barca won the Champions League again but not without controversy. Robin Van Persie was sent off at the Camp Nou when the aggregate score was tied, Barca went on o score the winner and knock out Arsenal. The ref sent him off because Van Persie kicked the ball 1 second after he blew the whistle, truly a very harsh decision.) Then the semi-final against Real Madrid, where Pepe was controversially sent off for a “foul” on Dani Alves. (Even though replays showed he didn’t touch Alves.) Barca went on to defeat Real 2-0 at the Bernabeu. In the second leg, Higuain’s goal was controversially disallowed, and a foul was given to Barca even though Ronaldo was fouled in the build-up and Higuain was onside. That game finished 1-1 and Barca were through to another final and beat Man United 3-1 to win another CL. However this feeling of Barcelona getting calls was seen as the norm and Pep’s accomplishments were seen by some as “lucky”.
I don’t think Barca were as “lucky” for me they were the best team in the world both years they won the Champions League. However the success attributed to Pep’s tiki-taka began to fade as this was apparent in his last season. Although Barca won the Copa Del Rey and beat Real Madrid 3 out of 6 times that season, they finished 9 points behind Mourinhi’s Real Madrid. They were also eliminated by Chelsea in the semi-finals of the Champions League, Chelsea avenged their heartbreaking defeat 3 years ago with help from the posts, crossbars. Pep’s tactics failed him that year his experiment with a back 3 cost valuable points in the league, and his strange formation against Real Madrid in the 2nd league clasico allowed Real to win 2-1 at the Camp Nou and seal the leaguie title. The year after Pep left, Barca won the league by 15 points, earning 100 points tying Real’s record. That is despite having Tito Villanova their manager suffering health problems, and interim Jordi Roura taking over as interim coach. In 2013-2014 Tata Martino replaced Villanova and finished the season trophyless. He was then replaced by Luis Enrique who in his first season won the treble like Pep. His second year he won the League and Cup double and had a 39 game unbeaten run in the season. In 2 years Luis Enrique won 7 trophies which is the SAME number as Pep did in his first 2 seasons!!!! By the way he had to deal with Zidane’s Real which won 12 straight games to close out the La Liga season in 2015-2016 and became European champions in the same season, Atletico Madrid which eliminated Barca in the Champions League in 2015-2016 and finished only 3 points behind Barca. The success Barca have had since Pep left shows that while he was important, Barca moved on from him and his style. Barca won under Luis Enrique using a more counter-attack based 4-3-3 where Messi, Suarez, Neymar wreak havoc on the break. The front 3 create danger instead of a pass-based system of witholding the ball. At the end of Pep’s tenure, Barca’s passing was slower and more predictable, which in the end cost them in Pep’s final year and to some extent the first 2 years without him. However Luis Enrique still wants the team to keep possession but just wants Barca to attack more and not build the ball out of the back as often. This minor change in philosophy allowed Barca to keep winning trophies even without Pep’s influence.
Is Pep overrated as a manager then? Yes he is. Pep Guardiola is the Arrigo Sacchi of his generation. Sacchi with his great AC Milan teams won 2 European Cups and 1 Serie A’s, and played some of the best football in the planet. Like Barca, Milan’s finest night came when they hammered Real Madrid 5-0 at home. They were the team of the era just like Pep’s Barca. However like Barca, when Sacchi left to take over Italy in 1991, Milan thrived. They won 3 straight Serie A titles under Fabio Capello, reached 3 straight European Cup finals in 1993, 1994, and 1995. In the 1994 final AC Milan destroyed Barcelona 4-0 to win their 5th Champions League. Just like Barca won their 5th Champions League in 2015 beating Juventus 3-1. (Coincdentally both teams won the CL 3 years after both men departed the club.) AC Milan under Capello had an unbeaten Serie A season in that span. Barca set the points record under Tito Villanova not Pep. While Sacchi was successful for the Azzuri taking Italy to the World Cup final in 1994, he slowly lost his touch. In Euro 1996, Italy crashed out in the group stage of the tournament. He then went on to have failed stints at AC Milan and Atletico Madrid and could never recapture his initial success at Milan. In part due to his stubborness, and in part due to the lack of talent. Pep like Sacchi had a great start at his next job, winning 3 league titles at Bayern and 2 German Cups, however unlike his predecessor Jupp Heynckes he never won the Champions League.with the German club. Now at City it seems likely that Pep may be a failure, there will not be a title win this year. A Champions League run seems doubtful with the shape of the team, and the best he could do would be finish in the top 4 and win the FA cup. But that would be a failure for a man that 12 months ago was regarded as the best manager in the world. Pellegrini his predecessor did finish 4th, won a trophy, and got to a Champions League semi-final and was replaced. Roberto Mancini finished 2nd and got to an FA cup final and was fired after the season. Pep has no excuse for his City failure, but to be fair he might be a victim of overhype. Like Sacchi, Pep needed the perfect blend of players at the right time to get his style to work. It was never going to be replicated, though he did come close at Bayern. The players made the system not Pep, and now that Pep hasn’t got world-class players at every position he is being found out, just like Sacchi was in the latter end of his career. Pep’s contributions to the game can’t be measured, he is a brilliant manager. However he is no Sir Alex Ferguson, Jose Mourinho, Helenio Herrera, Fabio Capello, Diego Simeone, Antonio Conte, Jurgen Klopp, Carlo Ancelotti, Johan Cryuff, Rinus Michels managers who adapt to changing times and weren’t so stubborn to a style to the point of it costing them. Pep is a romantic, too much of one like Sacchi was. While romantics produce brilliance, pragmatists survive and can build cultures anywhere. Sir Alex won at Aberdeen and United. Mourinho won at Porto, Chelsea, Inter, Real. Herrera won at Barca and Inter. Capello won at Milan, Roma, and Real. Rinus Michels won at Ajax, Holland, and Barca. They not only won but when these men left the club or country felt their absence and the teams won less as a result. Pep has benefited like Sachhi from being part of an all-time great team. He was not the best manager because a great manager can do the best with the resources he’s been given, at City he is showing that he didn’t deserve that title.